Impfen - Hintergrundinfos

[Master Jan]

ich denke dass die (pflicht-)impfungsprogramme der welt-staaten in wahrheit zur eindämmung einer drohenden bevölkerungsexplosion gedacht sind und dass sie im menschlichen körper tickende zeitbomben sind die nur darauf warten durch die richtigen auslöser zu explodieren....die folgen sind dann krebs, ms und andere schlimmer krankheiten...vermutlich überwiegend von menschenhand in umlauf gebrachte krankheiten

jeder ist für sich selbst verantwortlich und muss entscheiden ob impfungen für ihn ok sind oder nicht....ich hab mir erst letztes jahr ne 3-fach schutzimpfung verpassen lassen....mir wird ganz schlecht wenn ich nur daran denke...aber zum glück gibts auch dafür mittel und wege diese dinge zu neutralisieren bzw. zu entfernen

fast schon pervers finde ich z.b. dass in gewissen staaten der USA und in österreich (?) man nur eingeschult wird wenn man diverse pflicht-impfungen vorweisen kann....
die masche ist perfekt....durch angst vor krankheiten bewegt man fast jeden dazu dinge zu sich zu nehmen...man schafft so ein dichtes netz der massen-beeinflussung der sich kaum jemand entziehen kann...und alles im sinne der gesundheit....prost mahlzeit

[Reje]

Hi, Mikatsu

Wo hast Du gelesen das Impfungen tickende Zeitbomben im Körper sind?

LIna

[miss lucky]

Jan, was du schreibst kling erstmal interessant, aber auch irre furchteinflößend.
Inwiefern sind diese Schutzimpfungen tickende Zeitbomben und auf welchen Auslöser warten sie? Wieso sollte dadurch z.B. Krebs entstehen können?
Und auf welche Impfungen beziehst du dich? Auf Grippeschutz, Tetanus etc? Meinst du dennoch, dass sie sinnvoll sind im Kampf gegen diese Erkrankungen?
Ich bin sehr verwirrt bezüglich dieses Themas...
Ich habe mich bisher erst einmal gegen Grippe impfen lassen, halte es in meinem Alter noch nicht für notwendig.
Die üblichen wie Tetanus lasse ich mit Sicherheit weiter machen, also alle 10 Jahre ist es ja wohl.
Erklär dich mal ein bisschen genauer. Bin sehr interessiert.

Liebe Grüße, Lucky.

[Master Jan]

im eso-ami-land

[padma]

hallo rica,
danke, für dein willkommen,
um deine frage zu beantworten, so das übliche masern, windpocken, röteln, mumps, eben all das womit man sich in kindergarten und schule so ansteckt, weiter oben habe ich vom pfeiffrischen drüsenfieber gelesen, das hatte ich dann so mit 12...
war nicht so easy für meine mutter aber so nach meinem 12 lebensjahr war dann höchstens mal ne erkältung angesagt, und das war ich dann selbst schuld, so von wegen ohne mütze laufen ja, ich war kein einfaches kind, dafür aber heute ziemlich abgehärtet ich denke schon, dass der körper auf die weise besondere abwehrstoffe entwickelt
na und wie gesagt, bin weder in brasilien, noch in burma , thailand oder indonesien geimpft gewesen.... vielleicht unverantwortlich, aber ich bin manchmal monatelang unterwegs gewesen...und bin absolut kerngesund, wogwgwn ich meine mitreisenden nach der impfung erlebt habe und manchen davon gings gar nicht gut....kann schon ziemlich üble nebenwirkungen haben
ich denke sogar, das wenn der körper durch sowas geschwächt ist, man sogar anfälliger für andere dinge sein kann.
aber ich will hier nur für mich sprechen und niemanden zum nicht-impfen ermutigen, das wäre mir zuviel verantwortung
lg
padma

[padma]

zu miss lucky,
bitte bedenke, dass schulmediziner zu leichtfertig mit allem umgehen...
z.b antibiotika, der körper immunisiert sich zu schnell dagegen,und wenn du dann mal richtig krank bist und hast bei jeder leichten erkältúng antibiotika genommen, dann hast du ein problem!
ich kenne einen fall aus meiner familie, meine mutter hat eine lungenkrankheit, bekommt alle 3 mon im schnitt, eine lungenentzündung, und ist immun gegen antibiotika... enste geschichte...
ich persönlich nehme gar keine chemie
es sei denn, es geht gar nicht anders, aber dann reicht ein aspirin
eine erkðltung dauert eine woche mit chemie und 7 tage mit kräutern
lg
padma

[Scorpia]

Morgen,

weiter vor is ja schon gesagt worden:

Jeder nicht geimpfte kann nur sicher sein, wenn um ihn herum alles andere geimpft ist

Außerdem mutieren die Viren. Für jede fast ausgemerzte Krankheit gibts ne Neuauflage in leicht abgeänderter Form.
Grippeviren mutieren und verändern sich ständig, passen sich dem Lauf der Dinge an.Es gibt unzählige Grippevarianten.
Mit einer Impfung gegen eines Virus, ist der Impschutz eine Vera.....

Für mich steht hinter jeder Krankheit eine Botschaft.
Mit ein Grund warum es nach Impfungen eine Krankheitsfolge gibt.
Die Seele wird ja nicht mitgeimpft oder bekommt durch die Impfung Meldeverbot.

Liebe GRüße, Scorpia

[padma]

hallo scorpia,
ich gebe dir da vollkommen recht... ich denke ebenso
schönes wochenende

gruß
padma

[Master Jan]

@lucky
ist ein etwas langer text, dafür stehen ein paar heftige details drinne wie impfstoffe kontaminiert mit schlummernden krankheiten sind die nur auf den richtigen auslöser warten.
auslöser sind in den meissten fällen syntetische süss-stoffe, vitamine (vorallem die b-vitamine) und konservierungsstoffe die ...können aber auch in anderen impfungen enthalten sein...
der menschen wird mit gesundheitfördernder wirkung gelockt....mit schlägwörtern wie diät-, leicht-, fettlos-, vitaminzustatz- produkte und vorbeugende schutzimpfungen...
einzeln sind diese produkte nicht weiter schlimm, aber in kombination explodiert die bombe....
übel dran sind z.b. soldaten die sich regelmäßig irgendwelche impfungen und mittel reinpfeifen müssen, manchmal sogar ohne ihr wissen....
in einer oder der anderen weise sind wir alles versuchs-tiere

und jetzt rate mal was den leuten bei allen möglicheb beschwerden oftmals gespritzt wird? vitamine *gg

aber es sind nicht nur impfstoffe welche dieses gift verbreiten...sondern es wird auch gezielt mit flugzeugen in der luft versprüht, sogenannte Mycoplasmas und andere krasse methoden...
natürlich wird alles genauso stark geleugnet wie die gegenseite versucht die wahrheit aufzudecken...
bleibt für den verbraucher mal wieder nur eines überig:
sich möglich nicht von syntetisch erzeugten oder veränderten lebensmitteln zu ernähren und wenn doch etwas aktiviert wurde einen heiler aufzusuchen, der diese nano-technologien wieder aus unserem körper lösen kann

liebe grüße
Jan

hoffe du bist des englischen mächtig.....vor allem gegen schluss wird auf die polio-impfungen eingegangen die bis heute noch :

Cancer-Causing Vaccines,
Polio, AIDS, and
Monkey Business

© 2004 by Alan Cantwell, M.D.
alancantwell@sbcglobal.net
7-2-4





The Global Polio Eradication Program, supported by the United Nation's World Health Organization (WHO), UNICEF, Rotary International, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC), is planning to immunize 74 million African children in 22 countries in the coming months. The purpose is to stem a wild polio epidemic, the epicenter of which is oil-rich Nigeria, the most populous country in Africa.

The vaccine program hit a snag last Fall when Islamic clerics in the predominantly Muslim-populated areas of northern Nigeria claimed the WHO program was a plot by westerners to depopulate the area. Laboratory tests revealed estrogen and other female sex hormones in the polio vaccine, proof that the vaccines were contaminated with substances that could cause sterility. Furthermore, Nigerian officials became aware of internet reports suggesting the WHO vaccine might be contaminated with HIV (the AIDS virus) and other cancer-causing viruses. African blacks are as suspicious of government vaccines programs as American blacks. A 1990 survey of African-Americans in New York City showed 30% believed AIDS is an ethno-specific bioweapon designed in a laboratory to kill black people.

Dr. David Heymann, who heads the WHO eradication program, says the oral polio vaccine (which contains live but attenuated polio virus) is completely safe. He blames Nigerians for exporting polio to surrounding nations.

The WHO, the world's leading international health and science agency, is mired in power politics. For example, the Bush administration now restricts communications between the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and WHO officials. A new HHS policy requires the WHO to submit all requests for expert scientific advice to political officials at HHS who will then choose which federal scientists will be permitted to respond. The new policy and two recent Administration decisions to withdraw federal scientists from major international health conferences are part of a disturbing pattern of political interference in global health issues.










Antifertility Vaccines and the WHO

In March 2004, Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist and Dean of Ahmadu Bello University in Zaria, Nigeria, took samples of the controversial WHO's oral polio vaccine to India for analysis. Evidence of serious vaccine contamination was found. According to a March 11, 2004 report on www.lifesite.net, Kaita was asked why drug manufacturers would contaminate the oral polio vaccine. He gave three reasons: "These manufacturers or promoters of these harmful things have a secret agenda which only further research can reveal. Secondly they have always taken us in the third world for granted, thinking we don't have the capacity, knowledge and equipment to conduct tests that would reveal such contaminants. And very unfortunately they also have people to defend their atrocities within our midst, and worst still some of these are supposed to be our own professionals who we rely on to protect our interests." Dr. Kaita is demanding that "those who imported this fake drug in the name of Polio Vaccines- be prosecuted like any other criminal."

This is not the first time the WHO has been called on the carpet to explain their surreptitious use of antifertility vaccines. Millions of female Mexicans, Nicaraguans and Filipinos were duped into taking tetanus vaccines, some of which were laced with a female hormone that could cause miscarriage and sterilization. In 1995 a Catholic organization called Human Life International accused the WHO of promoting this Canadian-made tetanus vaccine covertly laced with a pregnancy hormone called human choriogonadotropic hormone (HCG). Suspicions were aroused when the tetanus vaccine was prescribed in the peculiar dose of five multiple injections over a three month period, and recommended only to women of child-bearing age. When an unusual number of women experienced vaginal bleeding and miscarriages after the shots, a hormone additive was uncovered as the cause.

It is no secret that since the 1970's the WHO has been testing and funding antifertility vaccine research that would make a woman's immune system attack and destroy her own babies in the womb. In Geneva in 1989 the WHO sponsored a Symposium on Antifertility Vaccines and Contraceptive Vaccines.

Third-world women who received the laced tetanus shots not only developed antibodies to tetanus, but developed dangerous antibodies to the pregnancy HCG hormone as well. Without HCG, growth of the fetus is impaired. Consequently, the WHO's vaccine served as a covert and unsuspected contraceptive device. Commissioned to analyze the vaccine, the Philippines Medical Association found that 20 percent of the WHO tetanus vaccines were contaminated with the hormone. The WHO has denied all accusations as "completely false and without basis," and the U.S. media never reported on the controversy. For further details, go to www.google.com and type-in "WHO + antifertility vaccine", or "Philippines + antifertility vaccine."

Following an eight month boycott, on June 24, 2004, the recalcitrant Nigerians agreed to resume polio vaccinations, under the conditions the polio vaccine had to be manufactured in Indonesia and nowhere else.



The WHO and the Man-Made Theory of AIDS

Unlike most Americans, Africans are aware of the man-made theory of AIDS, and the possibility that the WHO's extensive vaccine programs in Africa in the 1970s are connected to the severe outbreak of AIDS in the early 1980s.

On May 11, 1987, The London Times, one of the world's most respected newspapers, published an explosive article entitled, "Smallpox vaccine triggered AIDS virus." The story suggested the smallpox eradication vaccine program sponsored by the WHO was responsible for unleashing AIDS in Africa. Almost 100 million Africans living in central Africa were inoculated by the WHO. The vaccine was held responsible for awakening a "dormant" AIDS virus infection on the continent.

An advisor to the WHO admitted, "Now I believe the smallpox vaccine theory is the explanation for the explosion of AIDS." Robert Gallo, M,D., the co-discoverer of HIV, told The Times, "The link between the WHO program and the epidemic is an interesting and important hypothesis. I cannot say that it actually happened, but I have been saying for some years that the use of live vaccines such as that used for smallpox can activate a dormant infection such as HIV." Despite the tremendous importance of this story, the U.S. media was totally silent on the report, and Gallo never spoke of it again.

In September 1987, at a conference sponsored by the National Health Federation in Monrovia, California, William Campbell Douglass, M.D., bluntly blamed the WHO for murdering Africa with the AIDS virus. In a widely circulated reprint of his talk entitled "W.H.O. Murdered Africa" , he accused the organization of encouraging virologists and molecular biologists to work with deadly animal viruses in an attempt to make an immunosuppressive hybrid virus that would be deadly to humans. From the Bulletin of the World Health Organization (Volume 47, p.259, 1972), he quoted a passage that stated: "An attempt should be made to see if viruses can in fact exert selective effects on immune function. The possibility should be looked into that the immune response to the virus itself may be impaired if the infecting virus damages, more or less selectively, the cell responding to the virus." According to Douglass, "That's AIDS. What the WHO is saying in plain English is Let's cook up a virus that selectively destroys the T-cell system of man, an acquired immune deficiency.'" The entire article can be read on google.com ("WHO Murdered Africa").

In his 1989 book, AIDS: The End of Civilization, Douglass claims the WHO laced the African vaccines. He blames "the virologists of the world, the sorcerers who brought us this ghastly plague, and have formed a united front in denying that the virus was laboratory-made from known, lethal animal viruses. The scientific party line is that a monkey in Africa with AIDS bit a native on the butt. The native then went to town and gave it to a prostitute who gave it to a local banker who gave it to his wife and three girl friends, and wham - 75 million people became infected with AIDS in Africa. An entirely preposterous story."

Indeed, in my two books on man-made AIDS - AIDS and the Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the Epidemic (1988) , and in Queer Blood: The Secret AIDS Genocide Plot (1993), there is much evidence to show that throughout the 1970s (the decade that preceded the AIDS outbreak in the U.S. and Africa) there was widespread laboratory transfer of animal viruses, particularly primate/simian/monkey/chimpanzee viruses, by virologists. Various animal viruses were pumped into different species of animals and into all sorts of cell cultures. This experimentation was undertaken to find, create, and develop new cancer-causing and immunosuppressive viruses. It is these species-jumping laboratory primate viruses that are the source of "human" immunodeficiency virus (HIV) - not the animals in the wild in Africa.

To researchers who believe whole-heartedly that AIDS is a man-made disease, the evidence is crystal clear that the "primate ancestor virus of HIV" jumped species via contaminated vaccine programs, namely the extensive WHO-sponsored vaccine programs in sub-Saharan Africa during the 1970's, and the experimental hepatitis B vaccine (1978-1981) that was injected exclusively into gay men just prior to the outbreak of AIDS in America. (More on this later.)





Cancer-causing Monkey Viruses and the Polio Vaccine

Americans have been told repeatedly that HIV/AIDS is the first time a monkey virus has jumped species to cause a new epidemic called AIDS. But the rarely-publicized truth is that a cancer-causing monkey viruses jumped species a half century ago when contaminated polio vaccines were given to millions of people on the planet, including half the U.S. population of that era.

In the early 1960's it was discovered that some lots of polio vaccines manufactured on rhesus monkey kidney tissue during the period 1955 to 1963 were contaminated with a monkey virus called SV40 (Simian[monkey] virus #40). This primate virus was quickly proven to cause various cancers in experimental animals. However, to this day, U.S. government officials still insist there is no absolute proof that SV40 causes human cancer.

Despite the lack of government interest in SV40 in human cancer for three decades, genetic and immunologic studies by independent researchers over the past decade indicate this virus is clearly associated with human cancer, such as rapidly-fatal cancers of the lung (mesothelioma), bone marrow cancer (multiple myeloma), brain tumors in children, and other forms of cancer.

A Washington Times report (09/21/03) indicates "Some of the polio vaccine given to millions of American children from 1962 until 2000 could have been contaminated with a monkey virus that shows up in some cancers, according to documents and testimony to be delivered to a House committee Wednesday. The vaccine manufacturer said such claims don't have any validity,' and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) agrees. Documents set to be delivered to the House Subcommittee on Human Rights and Wellness appear to show that the original "seeds" used to produce the Sabin [oral] vaccine could have been tainted with SV40; that the company that manufactured the vaccine, Wyeth Lederle, may have used Rhesus monkeys -- which are more likely to carry the disease -- rather than the African Green monkeys it says it used, according to company documents; and that the company may not have performed all of the screening tests required."

Stanley P Kops is a lawyer who represents children and adults damaged by polio vaccines. He has documentation indicating that the polio virus "seeds" from which the oral vaccine is made are still not proven to be free of SV40. In his article entitled "Oral polio vaccine and human cancer: a reassessment of SV40 as a contaminant based upon legal documents", appearing in the journal Anticancer Research (November 2000), Kops states: "In litigation involving the Lederle oral polio vaccine, the manufacturer's internal documents failed to reveal such removal [of SV40] in all of the seeds. The absence of confirmatory testing of the seeds, as well as testimony of a Lederle manager, indicate that this claim of removal of SV40 and the testing for SV40 in all the seeds cannot be fully substantiated. These legal documents and testimony indicate that the scientific community should not be content with prior assumptions that SV40 could not have been in the oral polio vaccine. Only further investigation by outside scientific and independent researchers who can review the test results claimed in the January 1997 meeting and who can conduct their own independent evaluations by testing all the seeds and individual mono-valent pools will assure that SV40 has not been present in commercially sold oral poliovirus vaccine manufactured by Lederle."

More information on Kops, SV40, and polio litigation can be found at www.sv40cancer.com

More than 600 million doses of polio vaccine were sold by Lederle from 1963 to 1999. On Jan. 1, 2000, the CDC recommended injections of an inactivated killed polio vaccine (IPV) that eliminates the risk of spreading the disease, unlike the oral live polio vaccine that had been used for decades. This prompted Lederle to get out of the polio vaccine business, and the last batch of Orimune was produced on Dec. 31, 1999.

For anyone who still thinks that vaccine makers and government health officials are always your friend, I would highly recommend a just-published book titled AIDS. The Virus and the Vaccine: The True Story of a Cancer-Causing Monkey Virus, Contaminated Polio Vaccine, and the Millions of Americans Exposed, by Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher. The book explores the history of the polio vaccine, the contamination problems with SV40 , the ensuing vaccine-related cancer problems, and the government's cover-up of the problem over the past three decades.

Few people realize how dangerous vaccines can be and how complicated the process of vaccine manufacture really is, particularly when vaccines are made on living animal or human cells. Contamination with bacteria and viruses and their elimination from the final product are constant problems during the process. There are also recent suspicions that the laboratory media used to feed and nourish the cell cultures upon which the virus is grown may also be a source of contamination. For further details on the dangers of vaccines, see "Are Vaccines Causing More Diseases than they are Curing?" (www.whale.to/v/cantwell.html)



The Polio Vaccine/ Primate Virus Connection to African AIDS

In a 1,070 page book published in 1999, entitled The River: A Journey to the Source of HIV and AIDS, Edward Hooper claims a 1950's polio vaccine made using monkey (and possibly chimp) kidneys, contained the ancestor virus of HIV which now infects millions of Africans. Hooper's research greatly expands the polio vaccine man-made theory of AIDS first reported by Tom Curtis in Rolling Stone magazine in 1992. When Curtis asked the ubiquitous David Heymann whether the 1950's polio vaccine might have contributed to the outbreak, the WHO official declared: "The origin of the AIDS virus is of no importance to science today. Any speculation on how it arose is of no importance." Quite an amazing response from a man currently responsible for administering a possibly contaminated live oral polio vaccine to Africa's children.

Hooper's book got extensive press coverage, greatly upsetting the AIDS establishment which has always viewed any suggestion of AIDS as a man-made disease as hysteria, paranoia or "conspiracy theory." Similarly, my two decades of man-made AIDS research linking AIDS to 1970's vaccine, as well as two books on the subject, were dismissed by Hooper in a sentence in a footnote on page 897.

Not surprisingly, Hooper's vaccine theory was totally discredited the following year by AIDS scientists and WHO officials at a Conference held in London to debate the origin of AIDS, although Hooper still actively promotes his theory on the internet. The retesting of the old 1950's polio vaccine showed no evidence of a chimp virus. The molecular biologists also came down hard on Hopper with their "genetic sequencing data" suggesting HIV first entered the human population in the 1930's. (For details, google "2000 London Origin of AIDS.")

Why it took HIV a half-century to produce an epidemic was not made clear, nor was there any discussion as to how a black heterosexual African disease could have transformed itself exclusively into a white gay man's disease in Manhattan. Or why the epidemic broke out first in America in 1979 and was only uncovered five years later in Africa.



Oral Polio Vaccine and Immunodeficiency

The public frequently receives bad news about AIDS in Africa. Millions are dying, millions are infected with HIV, and millions of children are left as orphans. And this is just the AIDS part of the various horrors connected with Africa.

Africans question why they are being given the oral form of the polio vaccine (OPV) when this form was removed from the market in America in January 2000. The inactivated and killed polio virus vaccine (IPV) cannot cause polio, but the live OPV is indeed capable of causing (although rarely) paralytic polio. Equally dangerous is that OPV recipients shed live polio virus, which is entirely capable of spreading polio to unvaccinated and unprotected others. However, the oral form of the vaccine is the only form recommended by health officials for outbreaks of polio epidemics.

Even if the IPV vaccine were effective, the cost would be prohibitive. A 5cc. vial (enough to adequately inoculate 3 children with three separate injections) is $US 300. Is this form of the vaccine totally safe? The expensive IPV is thought to contain newly-discovered nanobacteria, which have been linked to various diseases. The Vaccine web site www.whale.to claims nanobacteria have been found to be a contaminant in previously assumed-to-be-sterile medical products, specifically the IPV Polio Vaccine. Most human biologicals and vaccines are made in fetal bovine (cow) serum, a medium known to be contaminated with nanobacteria, as reported May 23rd, 2001, at the 101st General Meeting of the American Society for Microbiology.

Bad vaccine reactions are increased in the presence of HIV, immunodeficiency and malnutrition, which is purportedly common in sub-Saharan Africans. So why is this not being considered? Will the WHO's live oral vaccine awaken more "dormant" HIV? Nowhere could I find this question being asked by WHO officials or other scientists. The WHO vaccine for Africa (except parts of Nigeria) is made by Aventis Pasteur, a multinational pharmaceutical company headquartered in France. In 2003 Aventis donated 30 million doses to the program.



The Origin of AIDS and Monkey Business

A google search of the "origin of AIDS" lists an overwhelming 796,000 citations.

However, there are essentially three major theories of AIDS origin. The AIDS establishment believes unanimously in the "official" monkey out-of-Africa theory. Second is Hooper's polio vaccine origin, now largely discredited or ignored. And third is the never-discussed "conspiracy theory" that HIV was deliberately seeded into gay and black African populations as a covert depopulation experiment with genocidal overtones.

Until 1999, it was widely believed that the African Green Monkey was the source of HIV. This theory was highly touted by Robert Gallo, the world's most famous AIDS researcher, who had done extensive animal virus research forcing ("jumping") primate viruses between species in the Special Virus Cancer Program (1964-1980) in the years just before the AIDS outbreak. In 1975 Gallo reported on a "new" and "human" HL23 virus, which eventually proved to be three contaminating ape viruses (gibbon-ape virus, simian sarcoma virus, and baboon endogenous virus). Gallo claims he has no idea how these viruses contaminated his laboratory [Queer Blood, p47]. For more information on pre-AIDS primate virus research, google "primate research + Special Virus Cancer Program."

In 1999 there was renewed interest in the origin of AIDS. A media blitz surrounded the finding of a team of researchers headed by Beatrice Hahn, M,D,, at the University of Alabama. Viral studies on three African chimps in the wild, and on the corpse of a frozen chimp named Marilyn, found accidentally in a freezer at Fort Detrick (the Army's biowarfare unit), all indicated a common subspecies of chimp was the animal source "most closely" related to HIV. Hahn theorized the epidemic started when a hunter cut himself which butchering chimp meat and subsequently became infected. For details, google "Beatrice Hahn + Marilyn".

Hahn is no stranger to primate theories, having worked in Gallo's lab when he was heavily promoting the green monkey theory in the mid-1980's. Her publicized 1999 AIDS origin research, based on genetic and molecular evidence, was quickly accepted as gospel by the AIDS establishment.

In 2003 she presented further details of her primate research, which was again touted in the media. This time her findings were even more impenetrable (at least to me). The most popular origin of AIDS web site (www.avert.org/origins.htm) summarizes Hahn's most recent findings in this way: "The findings of this 10-year long research into the origin and evolution of HIV by Paul Sharp of Nottingham University and Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama were published in 2003. They concluded that wild chimps became infected simultaneously with two simian immunodeficiency viruses (SIVs) which had viral sex' to form a third virus capable of infecting humans and causing AIDS. Professor Sharp and his colleagues discovered that the chimp virus was an amalgam of the SIV infecting red-capped mangabeys and the virus found in greater spot-nosed monkeys. They believe that the hybridization took place inside chimps that had become infected with both strains of SIV after hunting and killing the two smaller species of monkey."



American AIDS and the Gay Hepatitis B Experiments (1978-1981)

Due to space requirements it is not possible to give all the evidence pointing to AIDS as a man-made disease. However, a Google search of "man-made AIDS" lists 135,000 citations (not bad for a "conspiracy theory"!) and most of my published research on the subject can be found on the internet ("alan cantwell + man-made AIDS").

It is my view that the origin of AIDS cannot be determined without some reasonable (and not homophobic) explanation of how AIDS originated in America exclusively in young, predominantly white, previously healthy gay men in Manhattan, beginning in 1979. To my knowledge, there is no evidence to show that American AIDS originated in Africa. Furthermore, the virus "strain" of HIV in the U.S. is totally different from African strains. This finding has led AIDS researcher Max Essex of Harvard (and co-discoverer of HIV) to suggest that there may be two separate HIV-1 epidemics - one in which subtype B [the American strain] predominates and that is spread by blood and homosexual sex, and a second involving the other HIV-1 subtypes and primarily vaginal sex [as seen in Africa]. (www.aegis.com/news/ads/1995/AD951870.html).

The onset of the "gay plague" and "gay cancer" (in the form of Kaposi's sarcoma) are clearly associated with the hepatitis B vaccine trials which used young gay men as guinea pigs during the years 1978-1981. A few months after the first group of men were injected in the experiment in Manhattan at the New York Blood Center, the first cases of "gay-related immune deficiency" were reported to the CDC. The experimental hepatitis B vaccine was developed in chimpanzees, the animal species now thought to harbor "the ancestor of HIV."

Never mentioned by proponents of the chimp out-of-Africa theory is the fact that the New York Blood Center established a chimp virus laboratory in West Africa in 1974. One of the purposes of VILAB II, at the Liberian Institute for Biomedical Research in Robertsfield, Liberia, was to develop the human hepatitis B vaccine in chimps. The lab prides itself by releasing "rehabilitated" chimps back into the wild.

Also closely allied to the "pre-AIDS" development of the hepatitis B vaccine is the little publicized primate colony outside New York City called LEMSIP (the Laboratory for Experimental Medicine and Surgery). Until disbanded in 1997, LEMSIP supplied New York area scientists with primates and primate parts for transplantation and virus research. Founded in 1965, LEMSIP was affiliated with the NYU Medical Center, where the first cases of AIDS-associated Kaposi's sarcoma were discovered in 1979.

HIV tests of the stored gay men's blood from the hepatitis experiment at the New York Blood Center reveals that 6% of the men were HIV-positive in 1979!

By 1981, the year the AIDS epidemic became "official", 20% of the men were positive! By 1984, 40% were positive! This means that this group had a spectacularly higher rate of HIV than any group in Africa during the same period - and at a time when AIDS cases were not even recognized or noted in Africa.

It is clear that there is overwhelming molecular and genetic evidence to tie SV40 related cancer cases to the SV40 contamination of polio vaccines. Yet government health officials refuse to accept this research on the grounds of "not enough evidence" and "contamination problems" connected with SV40 testing (See Bookchin and Schumaker's book). On the other hand, AIDS experts try to convince us that a molecular HIV test on a dried-up blood specimen taken from an unknown black man in the Congo in 1959 is strong "proof" that human HIV cases existed in Africa back in 1959!! To me, the explanation for this absurdity and inconsistency in science is simple: The government does NOT want people to question the safety of vaccines, and it wants to blame Africans and African monkeys for a disease that is most likely caused by covert primate virus contaminated vaccine experiments, that undoubtedly still continue to this day. For more documentation of covert and unethical government-sponsored human experimentation , read In the Name of Science: A History of Secret Programs, Medical Research, and Human Experimentation [2003] by Andrew Goliszek.

AIDS scientists accept the fact that HIV was "introduced" into gays, but do not publicize the fact that a second virus - the Kaposi's sarcoma virus, also known as human herpes virus-8- was also introduced into gays at the time of the gay vaccine experiments. Are two new viruses just another "accident of Mother Nature"?

Two decades after the KS virus was "introduced" into gay men, it is now a permanent virus in the blood supply, which is beginning (like SV40) to appear in association with certain cancers. Twenty percent of "healthy" Texas blood donors now carry antigens to the KS virus in their blood. As many as 40% of Caribbean men with prostate cancer also carry the virus.

More details on the KS virus and the role of bacteria in KS cancer and other cancers can be found in "Acid-fast Bacteria Discovered in Prostate Cancer" (www.rense.com/general53/acsaid.htm); and in my book The Cancer Microbe: The Hidden Killer in Cancer, AIDS, and other Immune Diseases.

It is clear to me that AIDS science is highly selective. Scientists who support the African origin of AIDS are heralded. Scientists and researchers who support the man-made, laboratory origin of AIDS are ignored as "conspiracy theorists" or crackpots.



The Revenge of the Monkeys

AIDS scientists blame AIDS on promiscuity, homosexuality, dirty needles, drugs, air travel, etc,, but never once do they seriously consider themselves responsible in any way for the AIDS holocaust. Scientists quickly obscured the primate virus origin of AIDS by calling it the "human" immunodeficiency virus, a clever attempt to accentuate the "human" quality rather than calling it by its real name -a simian (primate) immunodeficiency virus. Better to advise people to not transmit a human virus, than to remind them they are spreading an animal virus of dubious origin.

On the altar of science the primate populations of Africa are dwindling to extinction. And the ultimate blame for AIDS is placed on primates who cannot speak for themselves. Over the decades millions of animals have been sacrificed for their kidneys and other organs to make vaccines which are now creating new plagues of incurable AIDS and cancer and new emerging diseases which in turn demand more animal sacrifice to make more vaccines and drugs..

Monkeys, chimps, apes, gorillas, and human beings are all classified as "primates." "Human primates" and "non-human primates" share 99% of the same DNA. Yet, we treat them all as disposable beings, locking them up in increasingly large numbers as slaves of science in animal gulags called "primate centers" for the sole purpose of using them and their children as hapless research tools.

As a physician, I am not against animal experimentation. However, I am against foolish and excessive and dangerous animal experiments that expose millions, perhaps billions of people, to disease and death from contaminated vaccines and insane biological warfare creations. I do not believe we can exterminate countless animals for our selfish purposes without some sort of reckoning. What goes around, comes around.

Will the monkeys and the chimps get their revenge?. It's obvious it is already happening. AIDS is depopulating the planet. Mad cow disease is a concern. SARS is yet another deadly emerging disease. The list goes on and on.

There is no indication things will get better. Only worse. Isn't it time we get over our fantasy that slaughtering these animals will somehow help us attain better health?.

Deadly HIV and SV40 virus from primates have already co-mingled with our human genetic material, changing our collective gene pool forever.

How many more people will have to die as a result of our lab atrocities and our scientific ignorance? The more animals we kill for science, the more people will die from "emerging" laboratory viruses. Admittedly this is a hard concept to understand and accept when we have been conditioned to believe that abusing and killing animals for science is in our best interest.



[Dr. Cantwell is the author of two books on the man-made epidemic of AIDS: AIDS and the Doctors of Death, and Queer Blood, available from Book Clearing House @ 1-800-431-1579 ad www.bookch.com]

[Ronja]

Hallo zusammen,

ich finde es schlimm, daß die Ärzte Säuglinge eine 6fach Impfung verpassen, wo der Körper dann gegen 6 Krankenheiten ankämpfen muß. Neuerdings gibt es glaube ich sogar schon eine 7fach Impfung.

Meinen kleinen Sohn habe ich immer noch nicht impfen lassen und warte noch weiterhin ab. Bei meinem größeren Sohn lasse ich demnächst die Impfmittel durch eine Heilpraktikerin ausleiten.

Ich kenne z. B. viele Leute, die durch die Grippe-Impfung erst richtig krank wurden. Danach sagt man natürlich, daß die Erkältung ein anderer Virus gewesen sei *hahaha* Jedenfalls war deutlich zu beobachten, daß die Leute, die nicht gegen Grippe geimpft wurden - weniger erkältet waren.

Ich selbst bin auch gegen fast nichts geimpft und habe keine Kinderkrankheiten bekommen, obwohl ich im Kindergarten war und auch sonst viel mit Menschen zusammen war, die die Kinderkrankheiten bekommen haben.

Gerade vor kurzem war in meiner näheren Umgebung eine Person mit Scharlach und ich habe diese Krankheit nicht bekommen.
Ich schließe daraus, daß wenn man ein gutes Immunsystem hat - nicht anfällig für solche Krankheiten ist.

Bestimmte Krankheiten sind auch nur in bestimmten Ländern und da sollte man ansetzen.... etwas gegen diese Krankheiten zu tun.


Liebe Grüße,
Ronja

[Zauberfrau]

@Jan,

es ist schon abenteuerlich was du da so alles von dir gibst. Übers Impfen oder nicht impfen kann man sicher trefflich streiten, jeder muss das für sich selbst entscheiden.

Aber es ist sicher nicht wahr dass Soldaten nicht wissen was ihnen gespritzt wird, und es stimmt auch nicht dass in Deutschland mit Flugzeugen irgendwelche Medikamente in der Luft versprüht werden.

Außerdem gibt es z. Zt. in Deutschland eineUnterschriftenaktion dass Eltern die ihre Kinder impfen lassen der so genannte "Beipackzettel" zum lesen gegeben wird. Dann können sie selbst entscheiden was sie ihren Kids zumuten wollen oder nicht.

Jede Impfung zu verteufeln finde ich nicht okay.

Zauberfrau

[Sachit]

... muß auch nochmal meinen Senf dazugeben...

Fakt ist, seitdem die Impfprogramme durchgeführt werden die Kindersterblichkeit deutlich zurückgegangen sind, und die Pocken quasi ausgemerzt wurden.

Fakt ist auch das es in Einzelfällen zu schweren Impfschäden kommen kann.

Es ist eine Gewissensfrage ob man das Risiko eingeht - ich habe meine Kinder auch nicht gegen alles impfen lassen.

Wenn impfen, dann denke ich sind Einzelimpfungen verträglicher als diese Kombimpfungen.

Wir haben eigentlich lange Jahre Ruhe vor den schweren Infektionskrankheiten gehabt. Jetzt denke ich das wir durch den vermehrten Kontakt mit Menschen aus allerherren Länder, in denen die Impferei nicht üblich ist vermehrt dem Risiko wieder ausgesetzt werden.

Ob sich jemand Impfen lässt oder nicht ist seine Sache - für unsere Kinder müssen wir aber entscheiden. Ich möchte meinem Kind nicht erklären müssen warum es an Kinderlähmung erkrankt ist.

@ Jan,

langsam kann ich deine Beiträge nicht mehr ernst nehmen

Ich frage mich was du dir da für eine Welt zusamenbaust...

Sachit

[Lomarys]

Ob sich jemand Impfen lässt oder nicht ist seine Sache - für unsere Kinder müssen wir aber entscheiden. Ich möchte meinem Kind nicht erklären müssen warum es an Kinderlähmung erkrankt ist.

das ist der entscheidende punkt.......unsere kinder können erst für sich entschieden, wenn sie volljährig sind.

und mich kotzt hier langsam an, dass es darauf hinausläuft zu sagen, wenn ein kind meinethalben polio oder tetanus kriegt, das als karma oder lernaufgabe abzutun!

ist für mich auf der gleichen ebene übrigens, wie die zeugen jehovas transfusionen ablehnen...........auch für ihre kinder...in lebensnotwendigen situationen!

der erwachsene kann für sich alles entscheiden....aber kinder müssen auch geschützt werden.

ich meine damit nicht, dass wirklich gegen jeden pubs geimpft werden muss, aber ein paar grundlegende schwere infektionskranheiten sind leider wirklich wieder im kommen.......und deren folgeschäden nicht abwendbar!

sicherlich muss das jeder für sich und sein kind entscheiden....aber hier entsteht wirklich langsam der tenor, dass die schulmedizin generell zu verteufeln ist.....und das ist sie nicht.

wir sollten lernen, beide methoden, die schulmedizin und die alternativen methoden gemeinsam einzusetzen und den goldenen mittelweg zu wählen......das wäre wirklich optimal......

und jan, deine statements gehen mir auch langsam zu weit! so kann nur jemand argumentieren, der noch nie mit solchen erkrankungen und deren auswirkungen zu tun hatte!

lieben gruss
momo

[Master Jan]

Aber es ist sicher nicht wahr dass Soldaten nicht wissen was ihnen gespritzt wird, und es stimmt auch nicht dass in Deutschland mit Flugzeugen irgendwelche Medikamente in der Luft versprüht werden.

wie würdest du die massen-kombo impfungen denn bezeichnen die jeder in der grundausbildung bekommt? und die bekannten vitamin-tees die komischerweise aggressionen unterdrücken und alle etwas schläfrig machen?
wer kann schon wirklich sagen was er da verabreicht bekommt? die können dir alles erzählen. der soldat muss glauben was man ihm erzählt und gehorchen...aber wirklich wissen wird er es nie!

zum thema flugzeuge:
oftmals werden mittel (nicht medikamente) zur angeblichen beeinflussung des wetters gesprüht...um hagel zu verhindern oder um regen auszulösen usw....gibt zig anwendungsgebiete...was ist wenn in den stoffen noch andere nano-partikel enthalten sind von denen nur die hersteller bzw. eingeweihte der regierung wissen

aber sicherlich: alles ist ok, alle wollen ja nur unser beste

Außerdem gibt es z. Zt. in Deutschland eineUnterschriftenaktion dass Eltern die ihre Kinder impfen lassen der so genannte "Beipackzettel" zum lesen gegeben wird. Dann können sie selbst entscheiden was sie ihren Kids zumuten wollen oder nicht.

Jede Impfung zu verteufeln finde ich nicht okay.

Zauberfrau

sicherlich...auf dem beipackzettel wird alles draufstehen...jawohl...und wenns da nicht drauf steht, dann kanns ja nicht stimmen, gell...
na dann haben wir ja ne schöne heile welt

@sachit
behalte nur das was du mit dir vereinbaren kannst...den rest kannste in die tonne kicken

[Rica]

@ momo
Ganz deiner Meinung!

Rica

[Engelsgleiche]

@ Momo und Sachit,
genauso sehe ich es auch!
Gruß Engelsgleiche
P.S.Übrigens..ich war gestern zur alljährlichen Grippeimpfung.Das mache ich nun schon seit ein paar Jahren,habe seither-außer mal einem Schnupfen-keine wesentlichen"Winterkrankheiten" mehr!

[Zauberfrau]

@ Jan


woher du deine Weisheiten bezüglich der BW hast kann ich nicht beurteilen.
Aber als langjhärhige Ehefrau (30 Jahre) eines Soldaten der ganz viele Auslandseinsätze hinter sich und noch vor sich hat weiß ich mit Bestimmtheit dass es sowas nicht gibt.
Ich kann mich Sachit nur anschließen, was du dir da zusammen braust und auch noch selbst glaubst ist ungeheurlich. Allmählich kann ich nur noch Mitleid für dich empfinden.

Zauberfrau

[Ilanah]

Hallo ihr lIeben
im Großen und Ganzen kann ich Jan nur zustimmen.
Daß amerikanische Soldaten Medikamente bekommen um die Angst zu unterdrücken und sie aggressiv zu machen, das hab ich bei dem Mann einer Freundin erlebt, der bei dem "Dessert Storm" eingesetzt war, er wußte nicht, was er da gespritzt bekam, "Aufbaupräparat" wurde ihm gesagt.
Als er und viele anderen zurückkamen, häufte sich die Mißbildungsrate bei deren Kindern (auch meine Freundin bekam ein schwerst behindertes Kind), der Mann trennte sich, hat inzwischen noch drei Kinder mit je drei Frauen, alle Kinder sind behindert, ebenso wie bei vielen der andern Soldaten. Inzwischen läuft eine Sammelklage gegen die Army, weil es nicht von der Hand zu weisen ist, daß die Medikamente schuld sind.

Zu den Impfungen kann ich auch aus eigener Erfahrung sprechen, als Kinderkrankenschwester hab ich die Folgen der dreifach Impfung täglich gesehen, jedes zweite Kind auf meiner Station kam mit Krampfanfällen, die in deutlchem Zusammenhang mit dieser Impfung standen, die kinder waren alle im gleichen Alter, leider wurden Ärzte, die das darauf zurückführten sofort "von oben" zum Schweigen gebracht.
Die Pharmaindustrie ist sehr mächtig hierm, das dürfen wir nicht vergessen.

fakt ist auch, daß die letzen Tetanus und DiphtherieToten, die es in den vergangenen 15 Jahren gab, ausschließlich Geimpfte Leute waren, auch die kleinere Polio-Epidemie vor einigen Jahren betraf nur Geimpfte Leute.

Die letzten vier Kinder, die nach der Masernimpfung die gefürchtete SSPE (Spätfolge von Masern, die ca. 5-10Jahre nach der Erkrankung aftritt, eine Gehirnentzündung, wegen der die Impfung empfohlen wird, obwohl sie nur in einem auf 200Tausend Fällen auftritt)bekamen, waren alle geimpft.

Die Krankheiten wie Pocken usw. sind erst durch die Impfungen erneut aufgeflakert (siehe die Bücher von Gerhard Buchwald zu diesem Thema?, sie wären "von allein" gegangen, so wie die Pest, die sich auch irgendwann ohne Impfungen "ausgetobt" hatte.

DA unser Immunsystem ein wahres Wunderwerk ist, und noch lang nicht ganz erforscht ist, halte ich es für unverantwortlich, einen Stoff zu injizieren, der auf Jahre hin, in das Immmunssystem eingreift.

Bei mir war es auch mal "Pflicht", daß das Pflegepersonal gegen Grippe geimpft wurde, einmal hab ich es gemacht und bitter bereut, ich war viele Monate krank, es hieß hinter vorgehaltener Hand, das sei die Impfung, die Folgen waren schlimmer als die allerschlimmste ERkältungen, die ich je hatte und vor allem über Monate. Nee, für mich nie wieder.
Seit ich mein Immunsystem anderweitig stärke, hatte ich kaum noch Erkältungen, und wenn sind sie sehr glimpflich verlaufen.

Auch den Impfungen in den Entwicklungsländern steh ich sehr kritisch gegenüber, denn wir wissen ja auch um die Wurzeln der Erkrankungen, und solange dort nicht an der Hygiene und den allgemeinen Lebensbedingugen gearbeitet wird, sind Impfungen nicht sehr sinnvoll.

Wem nutzt es, wenn Kinder dort gegen Polio geimpft werden, und dann an Hunger sterben?
Liebe Grüsse
Ilanah

[miss lucky]

Jan,

ich finder interessant , was du so schreibst. Ich hab zu wenig Ahnung, um dir zuzustimmen oder es abzulehnen, aber du bist nicht der Erste, der so etwas erzählt. Ich hatte zu diesen Themen schon verschiedene Diskussionen. Am Anfang stand ich der Sache auch extrem kritisch gegenüber, allmählich denke ich aber, dass da wahrscheinlich doch mehr dran ist, als zuvor gedacht.
Von diesen Stoffen, die mit Flugzeugen in den Himmel gespritzt werden, hab ich auch schon gehört. Und natürlich auch von der Wirkung von Aspartam etc. Interessant ist, dass es evtl. Auslöser sein könnte in Zusammenhang mit Impfstoffen.
Auch bezüglich der Sache mit den Soldaten kann ich dir nicht widersprechen. Ich bezweifle stark, dass ihnen immer gesagt wird, was mit ihnen passiert etc. Ich bin kein Verschwörungstheoretiker und dennoch meine ich zu wissen, dass sehr viel mehr hinter den Kulissen vorgeht, als wir uns vorstellen können. Vielleicht ist es besser für unser Seelenheil, wenn wir nicht um all diese Dinge wissen.

@ all:
Ich finde es schade, dass einige von euch Jan schon wieder so zusetzen. Laßt ihm doch seine Meinung. Ihr wisst doch alle selbst nicht, ob die Dinge, die er sagt stimmen könnten, denn damit wird wohl kaum jemand Erfahrung gemacht haben. Aber selbst wenn es abenteuerlich klingt, muss man es doch nicht so abschmettern. Wenn ihr es für Blödsinn haltet, dann ist es okay, aber haltet es Jan nicht vor, wenn er an solche Dinge glaubt.
Ich finde, es ist durchaus ein Gedanke, über den man nachdenken sollte, denn wir alle wissen, dass oft nichts so ist, wie es scheint.
Also verurteilt nicht so schnell.

Und Ilanah hat ja auch einige Beispiele gegeben, die Jan's Theorien z.T. unterstützen können.

Seid alle lieb gegrüßt, Lucky.

[Master Jan]

was ihr glaubt oder nicht ist eure sache....

ich möchte hier nur unterstreichen dass es möglich ist höherschwingenden menschen zu helfen denen krankheiten durch solche auslöser zugestossen sind oder die interesse daran haben diese stoffe aus ihrem körper zu bekommen...die modalität dazu ist shamballa 1024...

im schnitt hat jeder 2-8 von diesen stoffen in seinem körper...die meisten halten 2-3 jahre bis sie an wirkung verlieren...aber es gibt andere die sich nicht abbauen...nicht jeder stoff muss also zwangsweise zur auslösung kommen da zur aktivierung ein zweiter stoff notwendig ist....die wahrscheinlichkeit aber mit den auslösern duch unsere ess- und trinkgewohnheiten in kontakt zu kommen ist relativ hoch, vielleicht in deutschland nicht so extrem wie in den usa, aber dennoch möglich.
wenn ihr euch organisch und biologisch gesund ernährt ist die warscheinlichkeit sehr gering....

jedoch empfiehlt es sich schon von alleine sich gesund zu ernähren und darauf zu achten, was man seinem körper zuführt...
ihr seid was ihr esst....und das sollte hoffentlich nicht plastik oder chemie sein!

liebe grüße
Jan

[this]

http://www.geocities.com/healthbase/vaccination.html

ANTI-VAX (MIS)INFORMATION

Key purveyors of anti-vax misinformation

Alan Phillips
Joseph Mercola, DO
Vera Scheibner, PhD
Harris L. Coulter, PhD
Tedd Koren, DC
Barbara Loe Fisher
John B. Classen, MD
Gary Null
Jane M. Orient, MD (AAPS)
John Hammell (IAHF)
Jock Doubleday
Sandy Mintz
Phyllis Schafly
Roger Schafly, PhD
Len Horowitz, MD
Ingri Cassel
Walene James
Sheri Nakken, RN, MA
Pat Rattigan ND
Grady A. Deal, PhD, DC
Michael Nightingale
Harold E. Buttram, MD
Richard Piccola, MHA
Robert Mendelsohn, MD
Alan Cantwell, Jr., MD

Key purveyors of anti-vax misinformation=
"Hauptlieferanten von Anti-Impfungs-Falschinformationen"

Über eine kurze Internetrecherche war eigentlich leicht festzustellen, dass Alan Cantwell, Jr., MD , von dem dutzende Websites über Verschwörungstheorien behaupten, er sei ein hochkarätiger AIDS-Wissenschaftler, in Wirklichkeit nur ein Dermatologe ist, der vom Schreiben v. Verschwörungsbüchern wie z.B über "AIDS aus amerikanischen Waffenlabors" lebt und Aids eigentlich nur aus seiner Schwulenszene kennt, für die er heute auch kein Vorzeigeobjekt mehr darstellt.

Als das AIDS-Thema für ihn finanziell uninteressant wurde, wandte er sich der neuen Trendwelle zu, Impfrisiken im bewährten Verschwörungsstil zu dramatisieren.

Neben dem Titel "Lügner" handelte er sich auch den Spitznamen "Big money Cantell" ein.

In den USA begegnet man Leuten, die sich in Foren oder anderen Medien auf Quellen wie ihn beziehen, mittlerweile heute mit einem mitleidigen Lächeln....oder bezeichnet sie als "Dummköpfe".

[padma]

ich bin auch der meinung das schulmedizin nicht immer schlecht ist...
aber ich möchte trotzdem darauf hinweisen, dass es genug ärzte gibt, die auf teufel komm raus alles mögliche verschreiben als würden sie dafür bezahlt (was ja teilweise auch stimmt, es werden prämien von pharma instituten ausgestellt, oder wurden, ob das nun immer noch so ist, möchte ich nicht schwören, aber vor ein paar jahren war es so

(ich weiß nicht, wer von euch das buch "von mir aus nennt es wahnsinn" kennt... es handelt von einer amerikanerin, die tablettenabhängig war und ihrem arzt, der in deutschland eine klinik betreibt, es wurde von beiden nach ihren erfahrungsberichten geschrieben)

auch aus amerika gibt es von besagten soldaten berichte und auch beweise

skrupellose menschen gibt es immer, egal ob nun in der politik, in der medizin (man denke nur mal an den op- roboter, der so viele menschen verstümmelt hat, und in amerika nicht mal eine zulassung bekommen hat)

wie auch in der esoterik

so lange macht und kommerz oder ruhm wichtig für einen menschen ist, ist es egal aus welcher branche das schwarze schaf kommt

lg
padma

[Master Jan]

tod durch impfung...
schlimme geschichte...
jährlich sterben mehrere 100 kinder (wenn nicht noch mehr durch versteckte spätfolgen) in dtl. durch die folgen einer impfungen...das ist fakt!
findet ihr das ok? rechtfertigt das trotzdem impfungen? solangs immer nur die anderen sind ist es ja kein problem

hier ein bereicht von betroffenen eltern in englisch

Death By Lethal Vaccine Infection

From: "Lynn Schmaltz" lynnsch@spinn.net

September 02, 2004



Hi, This is serious stuff. Many of you already know about this but there are many out there that don't. Please take the time to read this and pass it on. Something needs to be done and there is strength in numbers. Even if you don't have kids or yours are grown what about your grandkids or your best friends kids. Please don't take this lightly. It is absolutely disgusting to me to know how our government plays with our lives and gets away with it! They are suppose to be protecting us? Stand up for these kids and stop being brain washed. I have 4 kids that are grown now. Do I feel lucky that they were not a statistic here?

On one hand yes. On the other hand NO. Why? Because I believe these immunizations (that I so readily made sure my kids got before I knew all of this because it was "the right thing to do" and I thought I was protecting them) hit too close to home as I think back now. For instance, my youngest daughter at 5 months old ended up with spinal menengitis and ended up in intensive care for 3 weeks. They told us there was a good chance she will not make it but they were doing everything possible for her and if she did make it she could have brain damage but we would probably not know that until she was older or. So she is now 25 and healthy. BUT it was not until I learned about the real story on immunizations (within the last 2 years) that I made the connection of why I found her not responding when she did not wake up for her 5 pm feeding. When I rolled her over the whole left side of her face was so swollen.

I called the Dr and he met me at his office. When we got there he took one look at her and said meet me at University hospital. He put her in his car saying there was no time to wait for an ambulance. So this has hit too close to home for me I just didn't know it until now. I am angry. Lets come out of the closet now and stop giving the government so much control (greed). So please get this out there to everyone you know.

Blessings, Deb

Death By Lethal Vaccine Injection

By Christine Colebeck

Today is my daughter's sweet 16th birthday but we will not be celebrating. Instead I will light a candle and when I blow it out I will make a wish in my daughter's memory. My wish is for all mother's worldwide, that you will educate yourselves and that you make informed choices so that you may prevent unnecessary tragedy and be spared from my pain.

Laura's Story

After 41 weeks of pregnancy, on July 27th, 1986, a perfect and healthy little baby, Laura Marie, made her entrance into the world. We were welcomed home by family and friends anxiously waiting to meet the new family member. They showered her with so many beautiful, little tiny, pink dresses, we joked that she would never be able to wear them all in one lifetime.

Our lives changed completely and now revolved around stroller walks in the park, visiting friends, changing diapers, night feedings and shopping for more little pink dresses. We were parents now, we had a family and life was absolutely perfect.

I took Laura for several baby check-ups at the pediatrician. She was a kind and gentle older woman. At 3 months old, the pediatrician was very pleased with Laura's development and weight gain and vaccinated her with DPT OPV. I didn't even question her, I knew that all my friend's babies had this same vaccine and "all good mothers" vaccinated their children to protect them. I left the pediatrician's office and walked home.

Laura was very fussy, which was unusual. She was crying loudly all the way home in the stroller. When we got home, I realized she had urinated so heavily she wet everything in the stroller. Then her cry turned into screaming and she developed a fever, her leg was very swollen and red, and felt hot. I called the pediatrician who told me this was "normal" and to give her Tempra. I gave her baby Tempra and I felt better, the pediatrician had assured me this was normal.

Laura continued to scream and I could no longer console her. My every instinct told me this was not normal but I was young with my first child and trusted the doctor. I could not hold Laura in my arms because she screamed louder as any movement of her leg seemed to cause her terrible pain. I put her in the swing and she cried herself to sleep. I was so relieved, the Tempra was working and the doctor must have been right. I began to feel silly for all my worrying. A short time later, Laura woke up screaming and spent the evening screaming and sleeping on and off.

She had no appetite and nothing made her stop crying. Finally it was bedtime and she cried in her crib, until she fell asleep. She had never cried herself to sleep before and I felt very bad for letting her but if I held her, she screamed louder. My husband came home from work and I told him about everything that had happened that day. Laura was sleeping soundly in her crib and we were both relieved that she seemed to be feeling better and decided not to worry... I should have worried.

In the morning I awoke and was startled to realize my husband had slept in for work. I immediately knew something was wrong and the worry from the previous night came rushing back to me. I quickly ran to her crib, with a feeling of dread. She did not look right. I closed my eyes tight and opened them again, and considered the possibility that this was a dream, but when I opened my eyes she looked dead.

I went into shock and after that, much of this day remains a blur. I touched her and she was very warm. I screamed for my husband to call 911.

I watched as he performed CPR, my body was frozen and I couldn't move. He tried to revive our child to no avail. He was shouting for me to open the door for the paramedics, I was temporarily jolted back to reality and I went and opened the door. I could now move but couldn't speak. I just stood there numbly shaking my head, feeling completely helpless as dozens of paramedics, police and firemen rushed past me into our home. I didn't cry, and I wanted to scream at them to leave her alone but I couldn't speak. She was on the floor and they were shocking her tiny body, in the little bedroom with the yellow painted walls and clown wallpaper. I stood there praying in my head that they would just leave her alone, that they would get out of her bedroom and that I would wake up from this horrible dream.

Then I heard someone saying there was a faint pulse and I suddenly felt hopeful. She was rushed from the house in an ambulance. It was then that the homicide detectives led us into another room and the interrogation began.

They decided that my husband and I needed to be questioned in separate rooms. I immediately realized they suspected that we had done this to our child. We all know that perfect children do not suddenly die for no reason. I was silent, I had already decided in my own mind that this was somehow all my fault and although I wasn't quite sure what I had done to kill her, I was convinced that I had somehow caused this to happen. Perhaps, I was being punished by god for a sin or perhaps it happened because I had let her cry herself to sleep that night. The fact remained that my child was dead and "good mothers" do not have dead children.

My husband began to protest loudly about the line of questioning and he demanded we be taken immediately to the hospital, to see our child. The detectives finally took us to the hospital and put us in the "bad news room." The doctor came and insisted we sit down before he spoke to us. He began telling us that they had tried this and that and then finally he said the words that would echo in my ears for a lifetime:

"She is dead."

The pediatrician whom I so respected and adored broke down and cried when I gave her the news on the phone. She went back and forth defending the vaccine that she was told was safe, and blaming it for killing my child and those who told her it was safe.

She then told me that she also had another patient, an infant boy, die after this same vaccination.

Then the detectives took us home for more questions, often repeating the same questions several times until they grew tired of asking them. The questions constantly centered around our involvement, then they searched the house and checked for signs of forced entry. My husband repeatedly told them that he thought the vaccine had killed our child and told them over and over about her unusual behavior since she was vaccinated.

Everyone we knew arrived at our house. I made coffee and tidied the house, like it was any other day and we were having "guests". Shock is a strange and wonderful thing and of course you don't know you are in it.

My parents finally insisted on taking me to their house for a few days, while my husband and his friends had the horrendous task of packing up the nursery because I couldn't stand to look at it any longer. The room I had so lovingly made was now empty and a source of great pain.

Several days later, after the funeral and the tiny white coffin that was so small my husband carried it alone, I finally came out of shock and allowed myself to cry a river. I cried for all the things I would never do with my daughter. All the ballet classes I would never take her to, the wedding I would never attend, the grandchildren I would never know and all the dreams I would never realize with her. I cried for all that was and all that would never be. There was an emptiness inside of me that threatened to swallow me up whole, as I fell into the depths of grief during the darkest days of my life.

The detectives eventually became satisfied that we had not harmed our daughter in any way and the investigation into her death ended. We were then left without answers.

The doctors did not want to talk about her death being related in any way to the vaccine and, one after the other, refused to answer our many questions. I was repeatedly told that vaccines were for "the greater good." I was even told that loss of life through immunization was "expected" in the war against disease but these losses were considered to be at "acceptable" levels. However, this did not feel very acceptable or good to me as a mother with empty arms that ached for my child. The coroner finally told us months later that the cause of death was determined to be "SIDS" (sudden infant death syndrome), meaning "no known cause," and refused to release a copy of the autopsy report to us.

It took almost a year for us to obtain this report and to our great horror, we realized that the autopsy summery was copied directly from the vaccine product monograph under the heading "Contraindications" as follows:

"Sudden infant death syndrome has been reported following administration of vaccines containing Diphtheria, tetanus toxoids, and pertussis vaccine. However, the significance of these reports is not clear. One common factor is the age where primary immunization was done between the age of 2 to 6 months, a period where most sudden infant death syndromes are found to 1occur with a peak incidence being at 2 to 4 months."

There was no toxicology testing performed and the pediatrician never filed an adverse vaccine reaction report with health authorities. I later learned that most vaccine-induced deaths in this country are listed as SIDS and SIDS statistics are NOT included in vaccine adverse reaction data, even if a child dies only a few hours after receiving inoculation. This data is presented to physicians and the public to reassure them that vaccines are safe.

The government's own literature advises that there has been little or no testing in the area of vaccine safety or efficacy. Essentially, our children are the test. According to their literature, immunization is "the most cost effective" way to prevent disease. Nowhere in their literature does it claim to be the safest. We are trading our children's lives to save the government money. We are told that the benefits outweigh the risks but many of the diseases that we vaccinate for are not even life threatening; however, the vaccine itself has the potential to kill.

Vaccines kill at a much higher rate than we are led to believe. We play vaccine roulette with our children's lives and we never know which child will fall victim next.

If the odds are 1 in 500 thousand for death, 1 in 100 thousand for permanent brain injury, 1 in 1700 for seizures and convulsions or one in 100 for adverse reaction, are you willing to take that chance? Are any odds acceptable enough to convince you to gamble with your child's life?

I can assure you that death from vaccination is neither quick nor painless. I helplessly watched my daughter suffer an excruciatingly slow death as she screamed and arched her back in pain, while the vaccine did as it was intended to do and assaulted her immature immune system. The poisons used as preservatives seeped through her tiny body, overwhelming her vital organs one by one until they collapsed. It is an image that will haunt me forever and I hope no other parent ever has to witness it.

A death sentence considered too inhumane for this county's most violent criminals was handed down to my beautiful, innocent, infant daughter, death by lethal injection.

Today, on my daughter's birthday, I will grieve not only for the loss of my own child but for all the innocent children for which the benefits of vaccines do not outweigh the risks and are unnecessarily sentenced to death by lethal injection, under the guise of "the greater good." The true war is not against disease; we have somehow become our own worst enemy by putting our faith in science instead of nature. Today, I call on all mothers across the world to join me in putting an end to this senseless slaughter of our most precious resource, our children.

Response from Dawn Richardson, President, http://www.vaccineinfo.net/PROVE

Dear PROVE Members

I am forwarding this ... as a tribute to baby Laura and all the other children who have been injured or killed by a vaccine so that parents can learn another side to the vaccine story.

When I was almost 8 months pregnant with one of my daughters, I had volunteered to go to the Travis County Morgue with Karin Schumacher who, for years before she went to Law School, ran the NVIC news-list. Karin asked me to help her go through autopsy reports of infants listed as SIDS deaths and look at vaccination information. I will never forget the experience. We sat there in this basement buried in infant autopsy reports as my own baby kicked and turned inside of me.

Here were two of our observations: 1) A highly disproportionate amount of SIDS deaths clustered at 2, 4, and 6 months -- which are the very times infants are vaccinated. If vaccines had nothing to do with these, the numbers should have been randomly spread throughout the first 6 months of life. Not so. I challenge the naysayers to go to any morgue in the country and to be honest and see what I'm talking about.

2) It was shocking at how rare it was for the vaccine information to be recorded and how little investigating into the cause of death of these babies was actually done. It floored me that the when the vaccine information was even mentioned, it was often so incomplete. Medical examiners routinely missed asking for this indispensable information and failed to note the correlation of the date when the child died to even raise the question.

One of the things that struck me when reading Christine's story ... is that here we are 16 years later and so many doctors are still downplaying and denying the risks of vaccines and healthy babies are still dying after being vaccinated.

One of the most offensive things that http://www.senate.gov/%7Efrist/Contact/contact.html Senator Frist has in his vaccine bill which shields the drug companies from all liability when a vaccine injures or kills someone is that he is proposing that the federal government increase the amount of money that a parent receives from the government compensation program when their child is killed by a vaccine. Parents are not willing to be bought off with this blood money. Elected officials like Frist who want to eliminate the financial responsibility of the drug companies all together and throw the bone to parents that the government will pay them more if the government mandated vaccine kills their kid need to be voted out of Congress. If you haven't sent your email notes to your senators to http://www.vaccineinfo.net/national_iss ... _s2053.htmoppose S 2053 yet - PLEASE do! If drug companies have ZERO threat of liability, the one thing we can be certain of is that stories like [Laura's] will become far more common.

The key to change is education. Fortunately, the Internet allows parents to educate parents. Please stop for a quiet moment after reading the note and say a prayer for all the babies whose lives were ended before they even got a chance to really start ... and then take the time to forward this on to other parents.

Sincerely, Dawn Richardson President, PROVE

http://www.vaccineinfo.net/national_iss ... _s2053.htm

SenatorFrist's Vaccine Bill S 2053

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..und hier eine englischsprachige Site mit (Achtung: teilweise erschreckendem!) Foto- u. Textmaterial über unzutreffend verharmloste Kindererkrankungen, für die ein wirksamer Impfschutz in westlichen Ländern eigentlich Standard ist und über eine Anzahl bekannter, besonders dreister Lügner unter den Impfschutzgegnern

: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars1.htm ..., die offenbar in diesem Forum auch noch ihre deutschen Werber finden.

Besonders wird dies durch den "Fall der armen Laura" deutlich, der oben angesprochen und auf der gleichen Website als Lügengebilde entlarvt wird.

Siehe : Dead children can be useful

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